If we are not going to bake cakes, take photographs of gay weddings, then we don’t need to be doing it for heterosexual couples who are living together before they get married and maybe have children. Sin is sin, as the religious world tells us, and it should be treated equally.
‘Supreme Court will hear Colorado gay wedding cake case. ‘
Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, refused service to Charlie Craig and David Mullins
2019 WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court said Monday that it would review the case of a Colorado baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple because of his beliefs — a legal fight with high stakes for both religious activists and civil-rights advocates.
The outcome “could have a substantial effect around the country, depending on how the court rules,” said Carl Tobias, a court analyst, and professor at the University of Richmond School of Law.
In particular, Tobias said, it’s almost certain to impact the ability of same-sex couples to seek so-called “expressive” services provided by people such as florists or bakers.
“From their perspective, it’s important in terms of dignity and being full citizens,” he said.”
“I’ll sell anyone any cake I’ve got,” he wrote. “But I won’t design a cake that promotes something that conflicts with the Bible’s teachings. And that rule applies to far more than cakes celebrating same-sex marriages. I also won’t use my talents to celebrate Halloween, anti-American or anti-family themes, atheism, racism, or indecency.”
“The government in Colorado is picking and choosing which messages they’ll support and which artistic messages they’ll protect,” said Kristen Waggoner of the Alliance Defending Freedom, which took the baker’s case.
The couple and civil-rights groups, however, see that argument as a thinly veiled excuse for prejudice.
“This has always been about more than a cake,” Mullins said Monday through the ACLU of Colorado, which is representing the couple. “Businesses should not be allowed to violate the law and discriminate against us because of who we are and who we love.”
Freedom for All Americans called the couple’s denial of service a violation of Colorado’s nondiscrimination law.
“All of us cherish the American promise of religious freedom is which protected under the U.S. Constitution, but that doesn’t give anyone the right to discriminate against others,” said the group’s acting CEO, Kasey Suffredini. “This case will be an important opportunity to have a national conversation about the values we all share as Americans and the importance of equal treatment for everyone.”
On the same day, the Supreme Court agreed to hear the baker case, called Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission; it ruled on another religious dispute — finding in a 7-2 decision that religious institutions could seek state money for nonreligious needs.
That outcome stemmed from the efforts of Trinity Lutheran Church of Columbia, Missouri, to get state funding to resurface a playground.
Rules – Judgment – must be the same for all
If Christians in America or the world for that matter want to discriminate, then their rules must be applied equally.
When a heterosexual couple enters one of these businesses, here is what needs to be asked:
- Are you currently living together?
- Are you having sex?
- Are you pregnant, or do you already have children?
If we are going to go backward in our country, which is what discrimination is, separating people lets at least be fair about it.
The Church cannot and should not be allowed to use the bible on a specific group of people one way then completely ignore it on the majority of the population, including those who fill their pews.
If a Christian business began asking everyone who comes into its store the above questions, they would soon find themselves out of business. The church today does not address heterosexual sin, which is what they claim the majority of the people are, and they discriminate against the few so the many can act; however, they choose to.
Growing up in the church world, I can count on one hand the number of messages I have heard that address heterosexual six, but I’ve heard dozens more addressing other sins.
Is it a Choice or Born that way?
The church world convinced itself a long time ago that gay people chose to be that way.
Does that make any sense, Church?
Why would anyone choose to be gay?
The church world, along with the thousands of missionaries sent out into the world, teach and spread racism, and homophobia throughout the world.
Why would anyone choose to be part of a group that is so hated around the world, unless it is who they are!
If the church had asked the above question, it could have had the answer to homosexuality a long time ago. I was born that way.
Yes! There may be some in the world who were molested as children and got off on the ‘gay’ path, but they are not me. I have known since I was five or six, as has every other LGBT person. We are who we are!
Child psychologists have learned by the time a child is six or seven. The child knows who they are.
In my view, the church of the twenty-first century is about as far away from God as you can get. Slandering his name instead of living the way he told us to live in his word.
At some point, the church is going to have to decide what they are going to believe collectively. We have already had church splits happen in our country over the gay and lesbian issue. The devil must be laughing his little red ass off!
Last Days
I believe the church today is nothing like the early churches, and that is the whole point Revelation chapter 2 & 3 is trying to make, but most people who are studying revelations are missing the point.
Church, if the rapture happened today, 99% OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE LEFT HERE, AND YOU WILL GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION! Think about that for a while.
The majority of the church today is not doing anything that Jesus told us to do. We are little more than a cult.
A believer, A follower is someone who does what the person they believe in did. You don’t just read about it. Jesus raised the dead, healed the sick, spoke in tongues. Few believers today do the Word, and those who do are judged by those who don’t.
James said, “Don’t just read the word, DO WHAT IT SAYS!”
I read a book last year, ‘Conversations With God – book one’ by Neale D. Walshe and God told him, the gospels were written years after the disciples died, which means the information was second and third hand information. A New revelation of God in the twentieth century, not a nineteen hundred-year-old message.
I guess it had never occurred to anyone in the church that the Bible passed through many hands before it got to us, and since man likes to add things along the way, our bible is not in its purest form. Man often embellishes when he tells a story.
Anybody can call themselves a Christian, but it is only the man or woman who lives as Christ told us to live who is. This rules out the majority of the Church world in 2020.
Trump, Pence, and the lot of them should be ashamed of themselves and be on guard. God is watching! Judge others and you to will be judged!
How this case resolved
The Supreme Court ruled that a Colorado baker who refused to create a custom wedding cake for a same-sex couple was treated unfairly has been met with a fury of reaction at the beginning of LGBT Pride Month.
Conservatives are praising the decision as a win for religious freedom while the LGBTQ community see it as a step in the wrong direction. GLAAD was also quick to say this isn’t a case of “religious freedom,” but it is one about “religious exemption.”
Until Next Time,
David
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